Grumpy Alice

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Wednesday, 16 May 2012

IF THERE'S NO GOD, WHERE DID EVERYTHING COME FROM?


When people give scientific answers to this question the people who can't cope without god at the centre of their thinking reject these answers.
So I'm not giving any of these answers.

Instead, I'm going to look just at the christian idea of where everything came from.

Your creation story (Genesis, The Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, the Talking Snake) is just one of many stories humans have made up in an effort to make sense of their lives and their world.

Your creation story comes from a Bronze Age tribe living in the Middle East. 
The creator at the centre of the story is their tribal and war god. 
Giving your god a different name doesn't change whether he's real or not any more than more people believing in him makes him more real!

The fact that your creation story is written in a book doesn't make it true.

Everyone with a creation story thinks theirs is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Your creation story is somewhere in this list. They can't all be true.
The atheist position is that none of them is true -- including yours -- because the universe didn't have or need a creator.

Creation from chaos: Enûma Eliš, Greek cosmogonical myth, Jamshid creation account, Kumulipo Mandé creation myth, Pangu Raven in Creation, Sumerian creation myth, Tungusic creation myth, Unkulunkulu ,Väinämöinen, Viracocha. Earth diver: Ainu creation myth, Cherokee creation myth, Väinämöinen, Yoruba creation myth, Emergence: Hopi creation, Maya creation of the world myth, Diné Bahaneʼ (Navajo), Zuni creation myth. Ex nihilo (out of nothing): Debate between sheep and grain, Barton cylinder, Ancient Egyptian creation myths, Genesis creation narrative (Christianity and Judaism), Islam, Kabezya-Mpungu, Māori myths, Mbombo, Ngai, Popol Vuh, Rangi and Papa. World Parent: Coatlicue, Enûma Eliš, Greek cosmogonical myth, Heliopolis creation myth, Hiranyagarbha creation, Kumulipo, Rangi and Papa, Völuspá. Regional. African: Fon creation myth, Kaang creation story (Bushmen), Kintu myth (Bugandan), Mandé creation myth, Mbombo (Kuba, Bakuba or Bushongo/Boshongo), Ngai (Kamba, Kikuyu and Maasai), Unkulunkulu (Zulu), Yoruba creation. American. Mesoamerican. Coatlicue (Aztec). Maya creation of the world myth.Popol Vuh (Quiché Mayan). Mid North Americanz: Anishinaabeg creation stories, Cherokee creation myth, Choctaw creation, Creek creation, Hopi creation, Kuterastan (Plains Apache), Diné Bahaneʼ (Navajo), Raven in Creation (Tlingit, Haida, and Tsimshian), Zuni creation myth. South American: Legend of Trentren Vilu and Caicai Vilu (Chilean), Viracocha (Incan) Asian. Central Asian: Mongolian creation myth, Tungusic creation myth. East Asian: Ainu creation myth (Japan), Au Co (Vietnamese), Chinese creation myth, Dangun creation myth (Korean), Japanese creation myth, Nüwa (Chinese), Pangu (Chinese), Samseonghyeol legend (Korean). South Asian: Hiranyagarbha creation (India). European: Greek cosmogonical myth, Pelasgian creation myth (Greek), Väinämöinen (Finnish), Völuspá (Norse), Middle Eastern: Debate between sheep and grain, Ancient Egyptian creation myths, Enûma Eliš (Babylonian), Genesis creation narrative (Hebrew), Islamic creation belief (Arabic), Mashya and Mashyana (Persian), Sumerian creation myth. Pacific Islander/Oceanic: Kumulipo (Hawaiian), Māori myths, Rangi and Papa (Māori), Sureq Galigo.
[From Wikipedia]

There are also the Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime stories.

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